Feminism Cannot Prevail in an Environment Which Includes Significant Number of Masculine Men

I will use logical arguments where each step is reduced to two premises and a conclusion or a lemma (a lemma is defined as a contention for premises as well as a premise for a contention above it.)

Premise 1: Masculinity is Related to Testosterone.
Support to premise 1: A female fetus will develop male physical and behavioral traits if the fetus experiences high level of testosterone during pregnancy.

Premise 2: Dominance Creates Testosterone and Testosterone Creates Dominance.
Support to premise 1: See the article in Fake it Till You Make It: “In “Power Posing: Brief Nonverbal Displays Affect Neuroendocrine Levels and Risk Tolerance”, Cuddy shows that simply holding one’s body in expansive, “high-power” poses for as little as two minutes stimulates higher levels of testosterone (the hormone linked to power and dominance in the animal and human worlds).” See also
Status, testosterone and human intellectual performance” on the link between dominance and testosterone.

Lemma 1, based on premise 1 and premise 2: Masculinity Requires Dominance.
Support to Lemma 1: since dominance and testosterone are interchangeable, and since masculinity is emanates from testosterone, masculinity requires dominance.

Premise 3, Feminism Acts to Eliminate the Dominance of Males.
Support to premise 3: see Feminist Social and Political Thought: e.g. “To eliminate men dominance on social orders, women must focus on women Radical Protests “

Contention 1, based on Lemma 1 and Premise 3: Feminism Cannot Prevail in an Environment which Includes Significant Number of Masculine Men.
Support to contention 1: Masculine men would  attempt to dominate their surroundings and refuse being dominated since it is the essence of their masculinity (see Lemma 1), in contradiction to the feminist requirement of lack of male dominance in society (see Premise 3).

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20 Responses to Feminism Cannot Prevail in an Environment Which Includes Significant Number of Masculine Men

  1. Ian Ironwood says:

    Now let’s define and — most importantly — teach ourselves what a robust 21st century masculinity looks like. I’m thinking it’s going to involve a lot of P90X, Game, and ignoring feminism. Just one theory.

    • dicipres says:

      Very true.

      I would define masculinity as innate and gene-induced sexual and social behaviors characterizing men (specifically men who reproduce successfully) more and women less. P90X, Game etc. are modern expressions of the old innate biologically-related masculinity.

      Ignoring feminism is a big point, since men ARE genetically masculine. Our culture changed, not our genes and if we ignore the feminist culture we will revert to our genetically induced behaviors, which includes masculinity (and thus social inequality between men and women).

      BTW, I’m not against equality between the genders. I do however prefer inequality between the genders over cultural castration and the elimination of masculinity, which is the only way to achieve “gender-equality”. This is similar to the communist “financial-equality” which sounds like “justice,” etc. but comes at an unbearable cost to society and the economy.

  2. Aurini says:

    Are you familiar with the ur-study of social trust, A splits $100 between themselves and B, B chooses whether or not both keep the money, or they both reject it? It essentially shows the trust levels of your society. When controlled for testosterone, high-t As and low-t As were the same, but high-t Bs were more likely to reject an “unfair” proposal: conclusion, testosterone is correlated to punishing rule breakers.

    It’s also correlated to team work.

    Follows: high-t men will work together against rule-breakers. Feminists are rule breakers, using clever language. Low-t men will take advantage of this by one-upping each other as white knights. High-t men won’t tolerate it, and will help each other punish the behaviour. Furthermore, women usually flock to high-t men.

    Unfortunately, a society opposed to masculinity can quite easily destroy it in children; teach them anti-masculinity and submission (Good God, just watch the men on Doctor Who). All the more reason for us to start Jack Donovan’s Fight Club Gangs.

    • dicipres says:

      Aurini,

      I don’t think feminists today break the rules, they legislate the rules they want. And when the rules are made by feminists, high-t men (e.g. police/army) actually are the ones enforcing feminist rules against other men.

      BTW, I love your videos man.

  3. M3 says:

    @Ian Ironwood
    ” I’m thinking it’s going to involve a lot of P90X, Game, and ignoring feminism. Just one theory.”

    LOL. As it just so happens, i espouse people to use p90x because it works so well for me. Game and ignoring feminism just flow from that so easily.

    This post kinda segues into my post i put up today quite fluidly.

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  6. njartist49 says:

    Interesting. I am experientially persuaded that the first step to masculinity occurs in the mind: I am male, for so God created me; therefore, I am masculine. To become fully masculine, the man begins a lifelong journey with God as his head and his shepherd: getting yourself in a right relationship with God gives you a place to stand: your manhood is no longer dependent on social opinion or rituals.
    The feminist attack on the male starts with an attack on masculinity : there is a spiritual (psychological if you prefer) denigration of maleness; this can start in the home with a man-hating mother or a belittling father; here, the male child has no place or no one to turn in order to protect his spirit. The attack continues in the public school system and higher education; and the assault is continues when men work in a female heavy workforce.

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  8. You committed the Fallacy of Affirming the Consequent in saying that testosterone and dominance are interchangeable. If one kind of action (dominant poses) has a given effect (increasing testosterone), it does not mean that only that kind of action can produce the effect; therefore, the presence of the effect does not necessarily indicate that said action took place.

    Examples of things that increase testosterone are physical labor and noncompetitive sports, such as weightlifting. Squats have been shown to increase testosterone. Thus, you do not need to constantly strive to dominate others in order to develop testosterone.

    Incidentally, I am not dominant or submissive by any means – it would be deeply immoral for me to be either, since it would prevent either me or other decent people from making wise, autonomous decisions. I keenly believe in fighting against evil (including the evils of feminism), but not in fighting against other good people for the sake of “dominance”, as that would be a complete waste of energy and cause pointless harm and frustration to good people.

    • dicipres says:

      “You committed the Fallacy of Affirming the Consequent in saying that testosterone and dominance are interchangeable. If one kind of action (dominant poses) has a given effect (increasing testosterone), it does not mean that only that kind of action can produce the effect; therefore, the presence of the effect does not necessarily indicate that said action took place.”

      1. I showed a two-way relation between masculinity and testosterone as well as testosterone and dominance. Testosterone both emanates from masculinity and creates masculinity. Lower testosterone means less masculinity in a person. Also, Testosterone both emanates from dominance and creates dominance. -> lack of dominance requires lack of masculinity and testosterone. Dominance doesn’t have to be the only link to dominance, just A link is order for this statement to be true.

      “Incidentally, I am not dominant or submissive by any means – it would be deeply immoral for me to be either, since it would prevent either me or other decent people from making wise, autonomous decisions.”

      2. Morality is not relevant to this discussion, it is a human invention like god. Look at nature, you only have reproduction. Morality is for the common unthinking masses, like religion, to keep them in line. If you just want to hear things that will make you feel good, if you want to be a “good” person, don’t read this blog or the manosphere in general. We are bad and immoral, this is necessary for our liberation from the pretty lies you glorify as morality.

    • Ougo says:

      “Incidentally, I am not dominant or submissive by any means – it would be deeply immoral for me to be either, since it would prevent either me or other decent people from making wise, autonomous decisions.”

      Your ideal of always being morally correct (and superior) by acting neutral is your way of being dominant by proxy whilst kidding yourself that you eschew dominance. It’s the ultimate power trip to be so dominant that dominance is beneath you ;-)

  9. electricangel says:

    Good linkage back to scientific concepts to prove your point.

    Society also needs men to function as men, guided by High T, if it is to be successful for all.

  10. Firepower says:

    Feminism creates the rules. Those formal rules are laws.
    They create laws (with teeth) because THEY now hold all the power.

    Talk of any sort while ignoring this fact is woefully underestimating the enemy – and their capacity for retaliation.

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